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Other Software => Other Open Source Programs => Topic started by: Tuicemen on August 13, 2013, 02:58:07 PM

Title: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 13, 2013, 02:58:07 PM
I always get excited when I find a program that will interface with PCC.
After going threw several posts at cocoontec I found iSpy (http://www.ispyconnect.com)
This is as powerful if not more so then BlueIris however it is open source.
It also has a number of cool plug-ins like face recognition and licence plate detection(not 64bit compatible  :( )

The cool thing I found with this is it will also send a command line argument to another program like Pc Companion this will allow you to perform multiple tasks even send a X10 command. ;)  :)!
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 16, 2013, 11:15:25 AM
I've been playing with this for a few days now and have just begun to scratch the surface of possibilities. :0~
This will also accept command line arguments so you can create a user command in PCC to do a number of tasks even start recording.
Here is a link to help with what commands are available and the syntax to use: Command Line Access (http://www.ispyconnect.com/userguide-commandline.aspx)

You can even move your Kinects up or down. ;>
Since it appears Kinects code was a recent add, I anticipate many adds for it in the future.
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 16, 2013, 01:57:54 PM
I just updated this and have been playing with the clone option.
Very cool! :)!
This will allow one to trigger different events using the same camera.
You can monitor a totally different area of the display for motion.
You can use face detection with the main display and other detections for alerts with the clone or visa versa.
Currently I have 2 clones of one camera But I suspect there is no limit as long as you name them differently.
I can't wait to set this up on my HA PC.  :0~
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: KENRAD on August 16, 2013, 02:01:17 PM
I just updated this and have been playing with the clone option.
Very cool! :)!
This will allow one to trigger different events using the same camera.
You can monitor a totally different area of the display for motion.
You can use face detection with the main display and other detections for alerts with the clone or visa versa.
Currently I have 2 clones of one camera But I suspect there is no limit as long as you name them differently.
I can't wait to set this up on my HA PC.  :0~

I have been playing with this as well to see what I can come up with for new HA ideas to do with it  ;>  You know me always looking for the bizarre and off the wall stuff  (RoFL)


 (Chr)  Ken 
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 17, 2013, 08:39:21 AM
I played a bit with the face recognition and had it triggering different User commands in PCC.
I even had it greet me when it seen me in front of the laptop.  :)!
Although this doesn't distinguish my face from someone elses it does detect faces.
With the new clone option you can have it watching different parts of the display area for a face and based off it possibly create some scene lighting.
Since I'm not at my city home currently I can't test this out fully in my HA setup just yet.
I do expect I'll need to do some code tweaking in PCC or iSpy.
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Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: ITguy on August 17, 2013, 05:19:11 PM
WARNING!  AVG triggers a Trojan warning for "Downloader.Generic13.BIZU," as soon as you start to unzip the ISpy downloaded file!  It might be a false positive, but I'm not willing to take the chance.  Maybe the "ISpy" name is more appropriate than we thought.  :lol:
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 17, 2013, 07:13:47 PM
I never got that but thanks for the warning.
I'll do a full system scan and see if anything comes up.
I've installed the 64 bit version maybe there is a difference.
Did you download from here: http://www.ispyconnect.com/download.aspx ?
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Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: KENRAD on August 17, 2013, 07:24:46 PM
I never got that but thanks for the warning.
I'll do a full system scan and see if anything comes up.
I've installed the 64 bit version maybe there is a difference.
Did you download from here: http://www.ispyconnect.com/download.aspx ?
 (Chr)


I Installed The 64 Bit Version As Well And Never Got amything
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 17, 2013, 08:17:57 PM
I did a quick scan of the installer and turned up nothing.
I don't like the Ispy website as it links with Google and it is easy to pull up something your not looking for.
The install file is a exe not a zip file so I suspect you downloaded the wrong file from google.
In any case I'm doing another scan with Avast as I find it catches things AVG misses.
I'll also do a full system scan just in case.
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Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Singha on August 18, 2013, 10:59:06 AM
Sounds like  ISpy combined with PCC might be a replacement for advanced AHP and some other IP camera apps. Put together. Sounds great. Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: ISpy - NO TROJAN FOUND
Post by: ITguy on August 18, 2013, 11:17:06 AM
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...so I suspect you downloaded the wrong file from google.
Correct!  That's exactly what happened!  Went back and chose the correct download link, still got a zip file, but this time it's the correct one containing the installer exe.  Sorry for the false alarm!!   (CZB)
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 18, 2013, 11:20:51 AM
Sounds like  ISpy combined with PCC might be a replacement for advanced AHP and some other IP camera apps. Put together. Sounds great. Keep up the good work.
Thanks!
So far I'm very impressed with this software.
The developer is active on its forum so issues tend to get looked at quickly.
I tend to find new options daily, so I'm hoping this makes a good combination.

Since most cameras come with microphones it is cool that this will turn them on or off.
But it will also turn the microphone on or off that is attached to any PC on its network with detected motion or no motion.
This may be good for PCC voice recognition for users with a whole house VR setup. :)!
iSpy also has motion tracking for those with pan & tilt cameras though there was a bug in that code.
This has apparently been fixed but I haven't test it out since the update.
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Title: Re: ISpy - NO TROJAN FOUND
Post by: Tuicemen on August 18, 2013, 11:23:22 AM
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...so I suspect you downloaded the wrong file from google.
Correct!  That's exactly what happened!  Went back and chose the correct download link, still got a zip file, but this time it's the correct one containing the installer exe.  Sorry for the false alarm!!   (CZB)

Good to know I'll send the developer a PM about this.
However I'm not sure he'll be able to do much as the Google thing seems to be tied into the forum software.
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Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: KENRAD on August 18, 2013, 02:08:37 PM


Since most cameras come with microphones it is cool that this will turn them on or off.
But it will also turn the microphone on or off that is attached to any PC on its network with detected motion or no motion.

 (Chr)


Het T, this is very interesting to me.  I would love to be able to switch microphones on and off for my VR.  As I stated in another post the xbox DJ hero mics work very good for VR with PCC, but it would be awesome to turn them on and off even from a command line that way I could use my kinects to only have mics active in occupied rooms and eliminate a few false commands   ;> 

While we are on this topic with microphones, I have been trying to figure out how I can switch the default mic with a command line argument.  I have the DJ Hero mics on my PC,s and they work amazing, but I also have the POCketmic app that you turned me on to for android, but I am able to only get my server PC to listen to one at a time but I would like to be able to send a user command that could change the default mic setting from one to the other is this possible.   :`)

 (Chr)  Ken

Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: KENRAD on August 18, 2013, 04:11:15 PM
Ok so I finally got Ispy all up and running  with all twelve cameras and 4 microphones.   ~:0~  It even has the ability to listen to android devices if pocketmic is running on them and if you have pocket cam it can view the camera as well  `:)  I am working on fine tuning the object tracking this is a feature that I have been looking for for awhile.  Since track it for blue iris has been discontinued.  Also for those of you using blue iris ispy can run along side of it which give the best of both worlds.   :0~  There are alot of features in both that come in really handy.


 :0~  I can't wait to see the kinect stuff when it gets fixed   :0~

 (Chr)  Ken
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 18, 2013, 04:17:45 PM
Sending a user command to switch microphones might currently possible.
However you would most likely need to create a batch file that does this and trigger it with a user command.
Also I don't know the exact commands you would need to place in a batch file. :(
I'll add this to my to do list and play with some code for a hard coded command argument.

You may run into CPU difficulties running both BlueIris and iSpy  on the same machine unless you have a very fast PC.
Even then it could bog down recording.
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Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: KENRAD on August 18, 2013, 05:00:10 PM
Sending a user command to switch microphones might currently possible.
However you would most likely need to create a batch file that does this and trigger it with a user command.
Also I don't know the exact commands you would need to place in a batch file. :(
I'll add this to my to do list and play with some code for a hard coded command argument.

You may run into CPU difficulties running both BlueIris and iSpy  on the same machine unless you have a very fast PC.
Even then it could bog down recording.
 (Chr)

Hey T, if you could look into the needed info for the batch file I would really appreciate it.  I don't even know where to start  ::)  I have good results with them running on my main Pc but it is and i7 monster they run a little slow on other PC's tho you are correct.  With ihouse PCC, blue iris, abd Ispy running on my i7 I am only running at around 50%

Cheers Ken
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 20, 2013, 05:30:45 PM
It is good to know you have no issues, you can do a good comparison which I look forward to reading about. :)!
I had to run back to the city for a day so I'm testing ISpy over the web and it connects fine to the IP cams at the cottage ~:0~
I suspect the web service that iSpy says is needed for web viewing is only for none IP cameras.
I'm sure there are a number of possible work arounds for this if one needs that.
Since my cameras in the city are not IP cameras I may have to experiment with some possibilities at a later date.
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Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 24, 2013, 05:29:24 PM

 :0~  I can't wait to see the kinect stuff when it gets fixed   :0~

 (Chr)  Ken
looks like this maybe fixed with the latest release.
There is also a new command line option that toggle motions alerts  :)!
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: KENRAD on August 27, 2013, 07:17:16 PM
Ok so I have been a long time user of blue iris ( a few years anyways) and recently started playing with Ispy.  I think that I spy has a few more features that I really like like the tracking, but I can't seen to get it working great yet.  Both programs have the ability to send a command line to PCC which makes integration awesome.  I find that Ispy is a learning curve because the setting are alot different from blue iris.  I find that running them together if your PC has the horsepower to do so is awesome, but it does take alot of resources.  The main think that I like about blue iris controlling my motion sensing is that it has the android app that will send push notifications without the need to have a subscription.  Really the subscription is the only thing that Ispy has as a negative.  And it would be nice to have a android app that could control ispy the way that blue iris does.  In the near future I will be attempting to add the microsoft kinect to Ispy to see what can be done with it.  The regulars here know I am the kinect guy and try to incorporate it every where possible.  I love the fact that it almost allows my home to be self aware of presence.  Stay tuned for the kinect info to come in a few days. 


 (Chr)  Ken
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on August 29, 2013, 06:05:02 PM
I really like like the tracking, but I can't seen to get it working great yet.
I had tested this out prior to it being fine tuned some cameras like the foscams will allow you to set the pan speed in the onboard OS.
Play with the PT settings
You may need to slow it down or speed it up
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: KENRAD on September 02, 2013, 09:42:54 PM
I really like like the tracking, but I can't seen to get it working great yet.
I had tested this out prior to it being fine tuned some cameras like the foscams will allow you to set the pan speed in the onboard OS.
Play with the PT settings
You may need to slow it down or speed it up

Thanks for the tip T,

I will start there in trying to get the tracking working better.


I started to play around with the kinect stuff and its pretty cool they allow you to see the camera in 3 different dimensions.  Depth, IR , and color view.  In color view it works exactly like any other web cam but the resolution is amazing, far better than my foscams.  in IR view it is great for low light situations where there is limited detail needed and in depth mode you can set virtual trip wire that can trigger alerts.  SO it can send a user command to PCC to perform anything that can be done with a user command   ~:0~  it is very nice.  so now when it is dark out I have a trip wire by my front door that triggers the outside lights.   

 (Chr)  Ken
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on September 03, 2013, 07:26:08 AM
While looking over Kinect code I did notice the capability of night vision nice to see iSpy utilizes that. ;>
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: PLC on September 18, 2013, 09:40:39 PM
Just My 2cents as a Newbie. I've used I-Spy for years, love the interface and the update support. I have to relearn how to write code! I'm still in DOS command line era. I did write some good stuff in 4K of mem. 35 Years ago.
Title: Re: ISpy
Post by: Tuicemen on September 19, 2013, 01:10:22 PM
I've yet to look at the source code for iSpy but with it in C# it would take me some time to go threw it. I too would need to learn how to rewrite C# code.
Also the developer seems to be on top of things with regular updates anyways.
 (Chr)